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	<title>Comments on: ICE for theses (ThesICE) , where we are we up to?</title>
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		<title>By: Danny Kingsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Kingsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This request from us of Peter was part of scoping the options for electronic submission of theses. We have been discussing the possibility of creating a situation where the student submits their theses electronically and it is sent to the examiners electronically. We are trying to eliminate the need for printing out swathes of paper and then paying large amounts of money for postage. In a perfect world the examiners would have the option of annotating the thesis they are marking. Our student services department indicated that a large percentage of printed theses come back annotated. 

However it might be that we are a long way from electronic examination yet. I made an enquiry of a person here at the ANU who does research into examiners’ behaviour and her response has given me pause for thought. While there is no specific research on the reading of electronic theses. “We do know that some examiners read them on long plane trips, in bed or at the equivalent of a ‘place at the coast’ for weekend. We also know that they often/ even generally read in fits and starts over week or more. They read in the order of: abstract, acknowledgements, intro, conclusion and refs, then start back at the beginning. They take notes – mainly to themselves – as they go. Many tag pages with post-its to return to. Most read with a pen in their hand.”

This indicates it is important to consider the *client* who in this case is the examiner. What do they want? How do they work? There is no point developing a range of fabulous tools if they do not fit with the working processes in place. I am considering undertaking a small research project to try and establish the answers to these questions – our solutions might be for a non-existent problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This request from us of Peter was part of scoping the options for electronic submission of theses. We have been discussing the possibility of creating a situation where the student submits their theses electronically and it is sent to the examiners electronically. We are trying to eliminate the need for printing out swathes of paper and then paying large amounts of money for postage. In a perfect world the examiners would have the option of annotating the thesis they are marking. Our student services department indicated that a large percentage of printed theses come back annotated. </p>
<p>However it might be that we are a long way from electronic examination yet. I made an enquiry of a person here at the ANU who does research into examiners’ behaviour and her response has given me pause for thought. While there is no specific research on the reading of electronic theses. “We do know that some examiners read them on long plane trips, in bed or at the equivalent of a ‘place at the coast’ for weekend. We also know that they often/ even generally read in fits and starts over week or more. They read in the order of: abstract, acknowledgements, intro, conclusion and refs, then start back at the beginning. They take notes – mainly to themselves – as they go. Many tag pages with post-its to return to. Most read with a pen in their hand.”</p>
<p>This indicates it is important to consider the *client* who in this case is the examiner. What do they want? How do they work? There is no point developing a range of fabulous tools if they do not fit with the working processes in place. I am considering undertaking a small research project to try and establish the answers to these questions – our solutions might be for a non-existent problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Joss Winn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joss Winn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,  Thanks for your comments about digress.it Hopefully we can make it work well for you, through our work on the JISCPress project.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Now this is not suitable for examination, out of the box as the comments are in the open, but it could possibly be used for earlier stages of thesis writing, such as getting supervisor comments. A candidate could use the ICE template, post to a word press ‘blog’ periodically, with each new post creating a new entry for comment by the supervisors and potentially peers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You could make the entire blog private so that only authorised users could read it. For single install WordPress blogs, I like this plugin:http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-sentry/

WordPress has some privacy features built in, too. You can make certain posts password protected or private to only logged in users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,  Thanks for your comments about digress.it Hopefully we can make it work well for you, through our work on the JISCPress project.</p>
<blockquote><p>Now this is not suitable for examination, out of the box as the comments are in the open, but it could possibly be used for earlier stages of thesis writing, such as getting supervisor comments. A candidate could use the ICE template, post to a word press ‘blog’ periodically, with each new post creating a new entry for comment by the supervisors and potentially peers.</p></blockquote>
<p>You could make the entire blog private so that only authorised users could read it. For single install WordPress blogs, I like this plugin:http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-sentry/</p>
<p>WordPress has some privacy features built in, too. You can make certain posts password protected or private to only logged in users.</p>
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